討論:宣統帝
由Joker Twins在話題Requested Move:「清宣統帝」→「溥儀」上作出的最新留言:一 年前
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纂大典成例,君王以廟號立條,然溥儀逢兩千年未有之變,終老共黨之地,舊習盡廢,雖有偏安苗裔上尊號,亦未為世所廣知,則其傅當用何稱之?以名諱乎?以廟號乎?以年號乎?請諸君不吝賜教。夏侯 韜 (talk) 二〇一三年一月一六日 (三) 一三時二二分 (UTC)
- (否之,立年號)清制,一帝一號者,其所出者,上也,甚合所謂「名從主人」者。俗亦從其號而名之,宜也。清朝諸帝當悉依此例、天聰皇帝以名皇太極稱之。--Wusizhe (talk) 二〇一三年一月一六日 (三) 一三時二九分 (UTC)
- 模板:意见 末帝庙号一事以在下所知乃为其宗族所拟,现所陵亦是商贾所资。在下认为可用宗族所拟,且亦有书籍文章用之。--Jyu..(~福气世界~) (talk) 二〇一三年一月一六日 (三) 一五時二三分 (UTC)
- 當以清遜帝為名錄,宣統年號矣,不入流!--延陵世家 (talk) 二〇一三年一月一七日 (四) 〇一時五一分 (UTC)
- 然,当为逊帝、溥仪非废帝,私上之号亦不宜入典。User:Benjamin Jiperus二〇一三年一月一七日 (四)
- 復福氣世界先生:所議者,於大典中之主條目也,非廟諡也。若今主條雖暫作「清宣統帝」,然「清憲宗」、「溥儀」等條亦已各立,惟作渡至此耳。正文之末,已述及宗室所上尊號,非不取也。今余等所慮者,蓋此廟諡未為世所廣知,亦未若明思宗等,國祚雖亡,繼者仍奉其位,不以其偽也。然溥儀之事不同以往,民國、中共俱未上其封號,故曰宗室所為,實「私謚」也。竊以不宜入諸詞條正名。遂有斯條目正名之疑。夏侯 韜 (talk) 二〇一三年一月一八日 (五) 〇〇時二六分 (UTC)
Requested Move:「清宣統帝」→「溥儀」
纂溥儀 used 宣統 as his era name for Qing dynasty, and used 大同 and 康德 as his era name for Manchukuo. Thus, this article should name by his personal name 溥儀, instead of his era name.--Joker Twins(留言) 二〇二三年三月二八日 (二) 〇五時三八分 (UTC)
(+) 可也。 -- Illud Sine Nomine(留言) 二〇二三年三月二九日 (三) 一三時一四分 (UTC)
- 所謂宣統者,清之溥儀之年號也。所謂大同、康德者,滿洲國之溥儀之年號也。有清一朝,未有大同、康德年號,正如滿洲國十數年未有宣統年號也。故以清宣統帝稱溥儀,未有不妥之處。恕不讚此案。——魔琴 [ 議 績 ] 二〇二三年四月四日 (二) 一二時五五分 (UTC)
- 溥儀 is his personal name, which can refer to himself for his whole life. 清宣統帝 can only refer to his life in Qing dyansty, however it was just 6 years, nearly only a tenth of his whole life. In addition, he was also the head of state of Manchukuo during 大同 and 康德 era. Thus, 溥儀 is the best title of this article.--Joker Twins(留言) 二〇二三年四月四日 (二) 一四時二四分 (UTC)